Poll: Will Dayton's Symbolic Photo ID Veto Help Defeat Measure?

Regardless of the veto, the Constitutional amendment will be on the ballot this fall.

Less than a week after the , Gov. Mark Dayton vetoed it Monday.

The passage of the measure puts voters in charge of deciding whether to amend the state Constitution to require that a photo ID be presented at polling locations. However, constitutional amendments do not need the governor's signature, making Dayton's veto a symbolic one.

Dayton acknowledged his action won't stop the amendment from appearing on the general election ballot this November, however, he called it a "proverbial wolf in sheep's clothing" in a letter to Minnesota House Speaker Kurt Zellers (R-Maple Grove). The amendment "goes far beyond its stated intention to require Photo ID's. Instead, it dismantles Minnesota's Best-in-the-Nation election system" by ending same-day voter registration and requiring new system of provisional ballots, Dayton wrote, adding that it "would severely restrict absentee voting, mail-in voting, and balloting for members of our Armed Forces and others overseas."

Dayton's Democrat cohorts in the legislature have long been opposed to the amendment, but State Sen. Dave Thompson (R-District 36) of , and most Republicans backed the measure.

This brings us to this week's poll. Will Dayton's public dismissal of the measure help DFLers in their campaign to convince the public to vote the amendment down?

Take our poll below and share your thoughts in the comments section.

Derrick Williams (Editor) April 13, 2012 at 03:28 PM
It's unusual for a Governor to use the veto pen symbolically. What do you think? Will it matter?
David April 13, 2012 at 05:21 PM
No, there isn't a strong enough argument to not have it. These days everyone needs some kind of identification to do anything. Even the ederly non-driving population can get photo ID in lue of a drivers licence. I did it for my mother since she doesn't drive anymore, but needs photo I.D. for bank accounts and various other services.
Craig April 14, 2012 at 01:14 AM
My mom is an election judge in Illinois. She showed me her voting ID. She was shocked we did not have a requirement to show an ID. And she is a dem.
Thomas L. Goodwin April 14, 2012 at 01:36 PM
If there were indications of some considerable voter fraud from past elections, I would agree with this measure. Since there isn't, this seems to me to be a ploy to reduce voter turnout among the least able of us. Shame on Senator Thompson for this being his signature accomplishment
Lisa April 14, 2012 at 01:43 PM
I certainly hope not. There is only one reason to veto this bill or not vote for voter ID and that is only to vote fraudulently.
Lisa April 15, 2012 at 03:17 PM
First- there is voter fraud in Minnesota. see links. Also, please tell me more about the "least able". What are their issues or characteristics? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4DC5rD_NFk http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/minnesota-leads-the-nation-in-voter-fraud-convictions-131782928.html
Colin Lee April 16, 2012 at 03:31 PM
This comment is completely wrong and incendiary. Voter ID stops many legitimate voters from voting. There are 200,000 legal Minnesota voters who have no photo ID: many of them students, elderly, and veterans. A better and bipartisan alternative was offered and ignored by our legislature-- electronic poll books. This would involve having a database where every voter's photo is stored in a central location. When a voter checks in, the poll worker would verify that the photo matches and then the voter would be marked statewide as having voted. This presents MANY advantages over photo ID. - It would prevent felons from voting. - It would not disenfranchise someone for losing or forgetting ID on election day. - It would allow poll workers to properly direct voters who arrive at the wrong precinct. - It would not make it more difficult for our soldiers to vote overseas.
David April 16, 2012 at 11:25 PM
ID opponents point to figures from the secretary of state’s office purporting that approximately 200,000 Minnesotans lack current photo ID. The other 500,000 is roughly the number of voters who used Election Day registration in 2008. Since the Voter ID Amendment doesn’t do away with Election Day registration, that number is simply irrelevant. Some portion of the 200,000 remaining are likely not eligible to vote (according to census data there are approximately 200,000 non-citizens residing in Minnesota, for example), and for the rest, lacking ID isn’t the same as lacking tonsils or an appendix. It’s not permanent. Voters will always be able to obtain a free state-issued photo ID at any time.
David April 16, 2012 at 11:27 PM
Minnesota’s election system, which combines Election Day registration with vouching, is among the least secure election systems in the country. We’re one of only two states that allow this, and one of only 6 who don’t employ provisional ballots. With nearly 200 recent voter fraud convictions, Minnesota is now leading the nation in convictions for voter fraud. Not a very noble distinction. Worse, it wasn’t our election system that caught the fraud, but an outside non-profit organization.
David April 16, 2012 at 11:30 PM
When the League of Women Voters, the NAACP and Common Cause sued the state of Georgia to stop a new Voter ID law based on claims of disenfranchisement, the judge upheld the law. In his ruling, he said that the League’s failure, despite their efforts, to uncover anyone “‘who can attest to the fact that he/she will be prevented from voting’ provides significant support for the conclusion that the Photo ID requirement does not unduly burden the right to vote.” A similar Voter ID law enacted in Indiana was upheld by the United States Supreme Court despite the same unfounded protests of the League of Women Voters and their allies. While it’s true that some eligible voters currently lack valid photo ID, there’s nothing stopping them from obtaining one. The state will provide one at no charge.
Colin Lee April 17, 2012 at 03:04 AM
David, all three comments fail to show how a photo ID prevents fraud. Is the a big "FELON" label printed on your photo ID? No. How does a photo ID work better than electronic pollbooks, keeping in mind that fraud is so rare as to make it unlikely to affect the outcome of any election?
Doreen Machin April 24, 2012 at 07:42 PM
Voter ID was discussed at the Caucus & 112 citizens used the same house address in MN to vote. Senator Franken got in with 312 votes & 1,000 felons were found to have voted months later & in interviewing 10 of these people 9 said they voted for Obama & Franken now what do you think the other 950 did? . You can't get a job, cash a check, got to a clinic, charge, purchase liqour & more with out photo ID. If you are on public assistance you certainly have ID, the gov. is offering for those who can't pay to furnish it free of charge, that doesn't mean you have to wait til Nov 6th & show up & say you are denied your right to vote, you have all summer to take care of this or have someone assist you in this process. Gov. Dayton votes same as Obama & directed by George Soros who is privately running the shots in the Democratic party so don't count on this Governor to do the right thing for the citizens of MN. Pass the bill to have Voter ID.


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