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Patch Poll: Should Lakeville Go to a Single Garbage Hauler System?

Take our poll below and share your thoughts in the comments section.

  • Should Lakeville go to a single trash hauler?

    (Voting has been closed for this question)
    • Yes
        8 (22%)
    • No
        24 (68%)
    • I couldn't care less either way
        0 (0%)
    • I'm torn, I see benefits to both
        3 (8%)
    Total votes: 35
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Around the Metro, cities are looking to contract with just one waste and recycling company to cover whole communities.

Richfield is exploring the idea and Maplewood recelntly implemented it. Some say it reduces trash-trucks on the roads, and saves tax dollars.

In Lakeville, the truth is, a total of six waste and recycling haulers are licensed to do business in Lakeville, including: 

As far as the pros of a single hauler system go, some say the current system is inefficient, causes extra pollution, damages the roads, and could lead to unwarranted physical danger to the public. In addition, moving to an organized garbage collection system can save people 30-50 percent on their bills, according to a recent Sun Current article.

So, Patch asks: Should lakeville consider moving to a single hauler system? Should the city keep the current system? What are the most important things to you when thinking about this issue?

Take our poll below and share your thoughts in the comments section.

Related Topics: Government, Lakeville, Patch Poll, Trash Collection, and trash hauler

Evan

1:56 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

Sure it will reduce trucks on the road and accumulated weight traveling over the streets by a tiny bit. But Is the wear & tear really significant compared to the much higher passenger vehicle load and that of heavier delivery and work trucks?

The safety fears are unwarranted and ridiculous. How many people are getting injured by garbage trucks all the time? Do we really have enough incidents that cutting hauler traffic by 50% (or whatever it would really be) would reduce the carnage?

Less pollution? This is an emotional argument. Who doesn't want to pollute less? It's a talking point that's virtually impossible to argue against since it's really hard for anyone to quantify the true impact of it. We could probably have a much larger positive impact on the environment simply by reducing the amount of garbage we create and recycling and composting more.

The idea that a single "organized" system can cost the consumers less ignores the benefits consumers gain from competition. Countless locals regularly re-negotiate their waste hauling rates with their provider or switch to others which offer better rates. In other words, the haulers will always try to creep their rates up on everyone, but when individuals complain or threaten to change services the consumer generally wins. Some of us are paying on the order of $140 less per year than others for the same service simply because we've negotiated or switched service.

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Evan

1:57 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

...continued from previous comment.

If concrete examples are produced showing the reduction in road wear will reduce street maintenance costs by the county and city enough to reduce my tax bill more than $140 per year, I'll consider the costs less in taxes argument. Besides wouldn't the city lose tax revenue from the haulers that are kicked out of the city?

If the city were to mandate a single hauler, residents would be stuck with whatever rates the hauler offered us or the government negotiated for us. No thanks. I don't trust others to negotiate my rates for me; I seem to be doing just fine at it.

What problem is the city really trying to solve? They don't have enough influence over how their resident's live? Who in the administration is floating this topic?

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Jason Sheehan

3:02 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

I moved from a home owners association in Burnsville that negotiated a rate with a single hauler and it was incredibly more favorable than any rate I was ever able to negotiate. The single hauler was not mandatory though. What happened was the home owners association negotiated the rate based on a percentage of participation. if 80% of the homeowners agreed to use the hauler, the rate would be granted. It turned out the rate was so favorable that 97% of the homeowners participated.

The hauler's saw the benefit of volume over a less traveled distance. One truck covering less distance to become full.

The other benefit to the hauler could be considered a consequence from the perspective of impacting a local hauler business versus national. The hauler that won the business was a national company and came in significantly less than the local competition. It was no secret that it was an effort to undercut the local company.

It might be worth considering negotiating a rate based on a percentage of participation goal, and if that commitment goal is met the rate is granted.

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Evan

3:24 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

Jason, I've got no problems with group negotiation when people are not obligated to use it. Groups often get good rates for the volume reason. But if competition is effectively outlawed, that removes much of the leverage negotiating rates.

And once the ability to negotiate at the household level in favor of the government doing it for the whole is lost, it'll be lost for ever. I'd rather not go there.

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Jason Sheehan

3:37 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

I understand your point of view.

You would not be opposed to the city negotiating a group rate provided the choice is not mandatory.

There was a similar vocal minority in the 100+ single family home neighborhood I moved from, and when the option was presented to spend considerably less than what they already were those same neighbors switched to the negotiated hauler. Those that did not switch were due to existing contract terms, and eventually did switch.

I would like to see the city take this approach. Negotiate based on projected participation, and offer the negotiated rate as a benefit to the citizens.

Kim O

2:10 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

I would love it, one garbage day per street. There are some houses don't have garbage service at all. Thid would force people to pay for garbage service.

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Smokin' Joe

2:07 pm on Saturday, January 5, 2013

And why do you care if someone hauls their own garbage? Own shares in Waste Management? With what I have to pay for garbage service at my business I'm not real thrilled about paying again at my home.

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jim

8:47 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

Kim, what business is it of yours if they have a garbage pick up at their residence or they haul it themselves?

Mark

2:42 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013

what's next? A "city designated pizza delivery company?" A designated milk man? Why do we need both UPS and FedEx both ruining our streets? Where will it end?

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Eric Pseudonym

2:48 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

One need look no further than the cable company to decide if a one-company approach is beneficial.

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jim

8:48 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

Exactly Eric! I'd love to get away from one cable provider and have some competition.

LakevilleMom

5:56 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013

I would like to see more enforcement for trucks that spew oil and leak garbage juice all over the street. A new cheaper provider has ruined our street with its oil spillage and sloppy trash handlers leaving garbage in the street. You can tell who their customers are by the stains and mess in the street in front of the houses.

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Deborah Nelson

8:32 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

Environmentally, and for our tax dollars and the condition of our roads one hauler makes sense. Another issue is the look of our town. Wouldn't it be better to have only one day when there are unsightly garbage cans and garbage strewn about, than three days plus.

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Kent

8:08 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

I moved to Lakeville from Eagan where they had one designated day of the week for garbage pick up. You could choose the company you wanted, but there was only garbage sitting by the curb in the neighborhood one day a week. I prefer being able to shop the competition by price and service and to pick the company I want. But I would prefer that everyone in the neighborhood to put their garbage out on the same day.

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terry

8:18 am on Friday, February 8, 2013

Do Not go to 1 Garbage carrier. We see the results with a endorsed city cable co. This is a scam by the TV carrier industry to give the city money for their endorsement and the TAX for that is greatly inflated pricing for TV services. Do not fall in this same category as it will surely result in a monopoly that we will pay dearly for. The price increase does not warrant the policy of 1 carrier.

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Brent4Liberty

12:32 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013

When a business knows it has a monopoly, they do not have to compete so therefore they can jerk the customers around, give shoddy service, charge whatever they want, and know they can get away with it, because the customer is forced to do business with them.

Need any further proof, look at Cable TV. Charter knows that they do not have to compete with Comcast, with Time Warner, with MediaCom, etc for the business of cable customers, however they do have to compete with DirecTv and Dish Network in the TV business. Dish, I know partners with Frontier for telephone and internet and provides great service at a reasonable price.

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