Letter to the Editor: Bellows Should Not be Mayor of Lakeville
Letter writer: "Bellow can not take credit for the excellent state of affairs in our town."
Letter to the editor:
To drive your car costs you 50-cents a mile. However using public transportation costs only 25-cents per mile. People fortunate enough to be able to use public transportation are a bit richer for it and are able to use the savings helping themselves and our economy.
Several years ago I watched Mark Bellow oppose the then planed public transportation investments in our area because our contribution would cost the same money as half a tank of gas a year.
Then more recently, he vehemently opposed converting our old police station to the Heritage Center for seniors, veterans and history.
There are many more instances but these two examples show the man is either unable to understand what is good or he is on purpose playing small-minded agitator for political gains and to the detriment of Lakeville.
I also think it was low of him to use the personal troubles of the former mayor in Bellows election campaign against her.
It had nothing to do with the job or her integrity. The housing crisis demonstrated that the capitalists and banks, on purpose, did not scrutinize in order to make more profit.
Bellow can not take credit for the excellent state of affairs in our town. Our competent, professional city staff, with support of previous councils accomplished this. Bellow dose not have the perspective to understand this and he has second-guessed, invented problems and burdened—as in the wasted liquor store study.
Fortunately coming November we have the opportunity to elect councilor Matt Little as our mayor.
In his tenure he has demonstrated that he is of high character and truly stands for the good of Lakeville and all citizens.
Joe Niedermayr, Lakeville
Billy
12:53 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012
The city council unanimously vote for the bus transit...the following article was from Star Tribune:
The Lakeville City Council unanimously approved a Metropolitan Council deal Monday night that will bring buses to the city by 2009 in exchange for an extra transit tax.
Improvements will include two new bus stations in Lakeville, as well as an extension of a high-occupancy vehicle lane on Interstate 35W in Burnsville that will help relieve a bottleneck where 35W and 35E split.
The Lakeville bus stops will be among a host of major Twin Cities transit projects planned with a $133 million federal grant to reduce congestion, including improvements on I-35 and Cedar Avenue in the south metro.
The city, which got the offer from the Met Council about two weeks ago, had a tight deadline to make a decision because the Legislature must issue approvals related to the federal grant by May 12.
The tax would run the average Lakeville homeowner about $36 a year.
SARAH LEMAGIE
Patrick Petersen
10:15 am on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
According to the pasted article, it included the expansion of the HOV lane in Burnsville, not just the Bus transit.
I personally think that was a wise choice for all to support. I have yet to talk with someone that enjoys traffic.
reallyguy
1:17 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012
I for one am okay with the choice of Mayor bellows not wanting to spend the $1+ million on the new senior center. While I agree with the need, I don't agree with the timing or funding provided for the center. Especially in a city where just 12 months prior voters turned downed money for the school district which had very serious consequences.
There was no clear plan for the project, other than three of council members wanted it done and fast (maybe for votes, who knows) and lots of unclear funding. Now we are stuck funding much more of the project from cities pockets (tax payer dollards), an unsold old senior center which will most likely sit empty, plus a roof on the new senior center that will need to be replaced sooner than later (correct me if I am wrong).
The real problem is the old police station should have had a buyer or use before we ever built the new one. This was Council Member (now Mayor) Bellows stance for years. We let a huge asset sit empty and cost us a lot of money in the mean time. Now we will have another valuable asset sitting empty for some time while we wait for a buyer or another use.
I am confidant if this had been put to vote in November, the plan would have been rejected by the citizens and building sold.
resident
9:10 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012
I was at the council meeting. Bellow finally caved in and also voted for it, - as It became apparent that a decade of our tax contribution and the funding matches would go down the drain thereby making all his objections and holdout ridicules.
About the Heritage center. -I don’t understand where you and the $1+ million comes from? Or the citizen not supporting it? Have you not noticed all the volunteers and the successful fund raising effort? The project is almost done.
Is not a mayor supposed to work with the citizens not against them?
My biggest fear is that Bellow’s second-guessing insults the competence of our professional staff and burdens them. All of them have proven to be jewels and it would be sad to loose them.
And about the school district. – Do you expect the voter to give support to a district that spend over $1 million on a football field asrtoturf, overbuilds schools, skips on teaching aids and provides golden parachutes for the brass.
reallyguy
10:52 am on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
The cost of construction alone is around $1.12 million (assuming there has been no change orders), for years city staff said the roof would need be replaced, then magically the roof was fine, so that will need to be replaced in the short term. The building was worth $1-1.5 million depending on who you talked to. So this has cost the city quite a bit of money. Lets not pretend it has been free by ANY means.
The funding for the project was suppose to be tax free and include a lot of different types of funding. The old senior center is still for sale which was a large amount of the funding, I doubt we will get our asking price. The grants we were hoping for fell through, leaving more burden on the city. So we have borrowed from the liquor fund and will hopefully repay it. I have heard membership has fallen since the new fees were introduced and fund raising is behind where it needs to be.
I also never said there was no support for it, but I highly doubt the city as a whole would have passed this on a ballot. Lakeville is full of smart, fiscally conservative people and to think they would vote yes on something like this and say no to their kids (regardless of how poorly the ISD was being ran) is crazy.
Remember Mayor Bellows and the council are the staff's BOSS and we are their BOSS. To me it seems previous councils didn't take that view and let the staff do whatever they wanted.
Betsy Kozulla
9:46 pm on Monday, September 24, 2012
I agree with Reallyguy. Everyone appreciates the senior population and wants them to have a warm, enjoyable place to congragate, but many of us felt the timing was off and the plan wasn't well thought out. Just because a property is owned by the city, doesn't make it "free"..
And, to comment that Mayor/Pastor Bellows may not know what "good" is or, that he is is interested in political gain is down right laughable.
Please, stay away from insinuations that Mr Bellows is, in any way, unethical. That throws any credibility you may think you have.. right out the door.
Klaus Schneegans
9:05 am on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
I assume that you did not know that the tax payers are subsidizing any bus ticket with about $5.00 - so that makes it $10.00 per day - or $2,000.00 per year - for each commuter. We - as tax payers - would be better of to just had each bus rider $5.00 per day and use the balance to reduce our property tax. You may look at this differently in light of these facts. I think Bellows was right to fight spending the tax payers money for the benefits of a small group - less then 500 or "the 1%" as some may call them.
The same is true for the senior center. The senior center has a noble purpose - to provide a place to gather and have fellow ship for the older generation. This could have been resolved with the involvement of churches and other privat initiative without spending a single dime of public money. The membership of the center is about 700. So, a little more than 1% of the population. Mark Bellows solutions would have created more community for all and we all - including the seniors - would be better of for it, and not only financially.
Throwing tax payer money at small group issues make us feel good - because we helped - but that feeling is not sustainable and it is not just.
Klaus Schneegans
Patrick Petersen
10:13 am on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
Klaus,
I appreciated reading your comments. I would like to disagree with the fact of bringing churches into the senior debate. There should be and continue to be a separation of church and state. If Lakeville wants to continue to support building senior living complexes, then it is important that if we want to attract people to live in them, then we need to have a support system in place. This is what Matt Little did by supporting the new Senior Center. It is important that we as voters look at all sides of the issue and not just one.
Billy
10:50 am on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
Klaus, let me bring you up to speed on the Bus Transit that is now 3 y/o. As a regular bus rider into downtown Mpls at first I thought it was a waste to bring the bus to LV and extend the HOV lane down to the split because it was easy to catch the bus in Burnsville. We initially began w/ 6 buses between LV and downtown. I can now say that b/c of demand, beginning Oct 1 a 12th bus will be added to the schedule to reduce the # of people that have to stand. The 12 buses transport over 700 people daily from this park n ride. If you travel the 35W coridor during the rush hour, these 700 are the only sane people. Traffic does not move in the right two lanes & this eliminates 700 cars off of 35W each day. The first two levels of the ramp are consistently full during the week & a few dozen cars are parked on the top ramp. Usage of the bus will only continue to increase as we move into the winter months & the economy improves. I will agree that $3 each way is a steal but that is not LV's issue, instead it is an issue w/ the Met Council & Metro Transit as they determine the bus fares. We have intelligent people in LV b/c most of us taking the bus can afford to drive & park downtown but we'd rather keep our sanity & leave the driving to someone else. Hindsight is always 20/20 & LV should pat themselves on the back for bringing this service to LV just like EP, Edina, Chaska, Savage & Chanhassen have done - all well-to-do cities. I support Mark Bellows & his re-election efforts
reallyguy
11:01 am on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
Patrick,
While I agree with you that separation of church and state is important and a place of their own is important, there were better options than what was done. The timing was off by a few years IMHO. If we had sold the old police station like we should have before the new one was ever built, we more than likely could have built a new senior center (right next to the new police station), that would have been more adequate for our growing population. Instead, we will more than likely have a facility that will outgrow its use rather quickly and little support to build a new one in the next 10 years. Steve Michaud, the parks and rec director even stated several times that this isn't a long term solution but a stop-gap.
Matt
12:51 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
My biggest issue with Little is wondering how he can understand the issues facing those who pay the taxes he so readily spends in the community. As far as I know, with all due respect, Mr. Little lives in his mothers basement and has not ever spent a dime on things like property taxes.
Each day I am reminded of this when I drive down the "Little Corridor" (most of you know this road as Flagstaff Ave). If you drive down this street you'll see the speed signs are electronic, reminding people of their speed and the limit as 30 mph. These signs "protect" a very short stretch of Flagstaff and are a waste of our money if you ask me. We have plenty of police presence and some of the finest officers already watching out for us here on Flagstaff to catch up with those who may choose to speed. And to be fair, I am a resident of Flagstaff where each day I see the wasteful signs and the eyesore of all the Little campaign signs littered along the public right of way. Matt Little clearly has plenty of friends on Flagstaff. If he deemed it important enough to spend our money on the speed signs for our safely, he should ask those friends of his to return the favor by placing their signs out of the public right of way in the name of our safety as well.
Billy
2:52 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
A quote from the November 5, 2010 ThisWeek Newspaper which was published shortly after Matt Little was elected to the City Council: I now must work for the 6500 people who voted for me.
Here is where I have issue. As an elected official you need to work for the 50000 citizens living in Lakeville, not just the 6 - 7000 that voted for you.
Billy
4:08 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
I'm still trying to figure out why we built a state of the art police station in Lakeville with top notch crime labs(beside it being near the center of the city) Are we even utilizing the station to its full potential or did we see it as an opportunity for some to build their resumes by create a piece of art at the expense of tax payers
Klaus Schneegans
10:09 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
Billy, I certainly understand your position on the transit and there is no doubt that sanity is on your side on 35 W! Here is the issue, would you take the bus if you had to pay the actual cost - so $16.00 rather than $6.00 per day? And should the taxpayers pay the difference between your ticket and the actual cost? For now, enjoy your sanity! :-) Regarding the 700 cars of the freeway, I am not sure what the actual impact is; the hourly capacity of a 3 lane freeway - I believe - is over 6,000 vehicles.
Billy
5:48 am on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Klaus, once it exceeds $10 a day, most riders would switch back to their vehicles as the cost would be equal to the benefit and one would rather have the freedom of their car. I'm not going to argue what the real price is because their are too many factors one could bring into the equation to spin the numbers. These 700 riders in the evening are also spending money in lakeville. instead of grabbing groceries, dry cleaning and gas and home depot after work in burnsville, we are hitting the places around the park and ride. i am definitely correct that fleet farm has seen a huge uptick in business as well as the rainbow foods area because of the park n ride. MNDOT spent $14 million to bring the HOV lane down and implement MNPass - these are always the " cheaper" alternatives instead of building 6 lanes in each directions.
Billy
5:59 am on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Klaus, one more item you might be right with 6000 cars on a three lane freeway per hour, however, our problem is (using your number) 6000 CARS ON A TWO LANE FREEWAY - MNPASS lanes are so under utilized that 6000 cars are just sitting there in the right two lanes not moving. MNpass charges approx $5 on average to get to downtown in the morning, but this $5 only covers the operating expenses of a private employer who manages it, not the $14 million to build it. Additionally should we use your theory and charge everyone the true cost of using roads? Charge everybody who checks out a library book the true cost of operating the library? Charge to plow my portion of the street in the winter?- maybe home owners should be responsible for snow blowing the street in front of their house, this way govt services would be less as they would not plow residential areas.
Klaus Schneegans
10:17 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
Patrick, I don't understand how the separation of state and church come into play when churches would make senior gathering spaces available? Could you elaborate on that?
Patrick Petersen
8:28 am on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
As a tax payer, I would not be willing to fund a senior project at a church. If they want to do it independently that is fine.
I do believe that the City needs to have a state of the art and not over crowded Senior Center to attract Seniors looking to live here.
Klaus Schneegans
9:34 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Patrick, I would agree with you, if the city pays it should not be in churches, yet I disagree that the city should have a state of the art Senior center. I think the churches would be the right institutions to organize senior gathering places and organize activities. Plus I believe the Senior housing places - privat and public have or should have common spaces.
Patrick Petersen
8:33 am on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Reallyguy,
I totally agree that they could/should have sold the police station before they built the new one. Just like when people buy and build houses. However, I would hold the Mayor and the Council during that time period as the ones responsible for the vacant Police Station. If my memory serves me correct Mark Bellows was on the Council.
Billy
10:08 am on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Mark Bellows & Kerrin Swecker were both on the council. So were a different mayor and two more elected officials. I don't understand why we needed a new police station to begin with. They wanted it centrally located - well shouldn't the officers be spread out across the city throughout the day. It doesn't matter where the station is, but instead we just wanted to spend a boat load of money, just like we are doing with the senior center.
Charlie Gerk
12:39 pm on Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Bellows has been for the sale of the police station for years, as a council member and as Mayor, its in the records.
I know Bellows and Rieb were there for the vote on the new police station, since they started in 2001. I am not sure if Swecker was part of that vote since she was appointed in 2007.
We just did the same thing though with resistance from Bellows and LaBeau. We polished up the old police station and will be stuck with an old building waiting to be sold or turned into something else. It seemed like early on in the Heritage center project everyone was for selling the old senior center first, Matt Little is even recorded in the minutes saying it needed to be sold first, but as it looked like selling the building would be hard, support dropped.